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You can believe in it a little but don't let it get too much into your head.
Once you are taking it too far, you turn yourself to prey for some predators.

Contrary to some people's belief, twin flame is for the major purpose of spiritual awakening and not a back and forth relationship which you need to fight for.
Just like Karmic, twin flame might not last forever, in fact, it is not meant to be. This is where it's different from the toxic running and chasing thing that most people believe in, you discover your spirituality, know who you truly are, recognize your purpose in life, and be able to hold onto it, that's what twin flame is for. Although there would be a runner and a chaser, one who shuns and the one who wants to always get involved but not necessarily all the time back and forth or on and off relationship, your journey together might cut off just once, twice or thrice but not like you are chasing over and over for your entire life.
The journey is not a lovey-dovey thing, although it might seem like it at the beginning.

And after realising your purpose, you'll find your soulmate. Twin flame is very uncommon and it doesn't frequently happen like people portray it nowadays online and in every other places.

The difference between karmic and twin flame is that karmic is not about spiritual awakening or spiritual knowledge while twin flame is. You learn important lifestyle lessons to firmly keep a future relationship with your soulmate in karmic relationship but it's not about spiritual awakening. Twin flame usually involve lifestyle lessons and knowledge of how to maintain a healthy relationship with your soulmate too but the major thing is awakening your spirituality.
Therefore, they are not the same.
I believe in the concept and they are real, but you see twin flame is not a phenomenon that can happen to everyone in this lifetime, it's for few special people that the universe has bestowed with a kind of special spirituality but are not yet aware of it, their twin flame will fuel the awareness. That's it.

Quote from: Carim on Sep 25, 2024, 11:14 AMThey are just random thoughts brought about by negative energies to encourage craps from the people of the dark triad. I wouldn't be surprised if it's later revealed that one or more of these dark triad people developed the concept.
Nothing is real about the terminologies.

Some people actually misinterpret the case for that of an unhealthy relationship with a narcissist and co, but you should be able to figure and filter them out. And I believe if you are truly an old soul, this wouldn't be difficult, no one should use this as an excuse to remain in a toxic relationship.

Well, you may not believe it if it hasn't happened to you and it may seem irrational for now but I believe as more facts are gathered, it becomes clearer.

The first two questions have been made clear enough by @Congra, I'll just add little points.

As for twin flame, it is said to only happen to old souls but a lot of people are deceiving themselves, not everyone is old soul, in fact old souls are rare humans.
You want to claim your toxic relationship is that of twin flame because you want people to see you as a special person or an old soul, well keep it up, just remember it may take your life someday.

As for Karmic, most of us have been there, sometimes you feel instant deep connection with the other person and think it's a forever journey but it won't last. Nevertheless, you end up learning one or more very important lessons that will forever guide you in your entire lifetime, and which will also help you nurture your relationship with your soulmate when you finally meet one.

I think the whole idea revolves around the fact that there is always more than a person to learn from before meeting your soulmate so as to be able to connect well and to also value and appreciate the person (soulmate), so there's usually no need to rush.

I believe in the terms and they seem real to me, just that at the moment, no enough facts to back them up.

Quote from: Yace on Sep 25, 2024, 11:23 AMInsightful 🤜 plus thanks for correcting all my grammar errors in your quote, I'll adjust everything now.

You're welcome

Quote from: Yace on Sep 25, 2024, 11:25 AMWho are the people of the dark triad by the way?

They are the narcissists, psychopaths and Machiavellians. The invention of Twin flame and Karmic relationship is just a technique for healthy people to keep running back to them (especially the first two), and keep harbouring their toxicity.

Quote from: Carim on Sep 25, 2024, 11:14 AMThey are just random thoughts brought about by negative energies to encourage craps from the people of the dark triad. I wouldn't be surprised if it's later revealed that one or more of these dark triad people developed the concept.
Nothing is real about the terminologies.

Who are the people of the dark triad by the way?

Quote from: Rainy on Sep 25, 2024, 10:32 AMAlthough they're different.
The two are total BS, that's all I can say. No need to stress over the terms.

😀Ok Rainy

Quote from: Congra on Sep 25, 2024, 11:04 AMTwin flames are believed to share intense connection and the connection and intimacy between the two people involved could feel like that from a single soul divided into other half i.e two people evolved from just a soul. Some experts in this field do claim that many things would match well between twin flames including physical appearance, they may look alike or be close to looking alike. It is a once in a lifetime thing which may or may not last forever. The purpose is for spiritual or soul growth and positive alterations.

Karmic is a connection with the main purpose of learning something unique in a lifetime, it's happens as a result of instant connection between the two people. It's often believed not to be a long lasting relationship i.e it's a relationship that's not meant to last long, just for you to learn from, some believe that you could have more than one karmic partner in a lifetime.

As explained above, they're different

Absolutely No

As for me, no, they're not real. Just a kind of irrational belief

Insightful 🤜 plus thanks for correcting all my grammar errors in your quote, I'll adjust everything now.

They are just random thoughts brought about by negative energies to encourage craps from the people of the dark triad. I wouldn't be surprised if it's later revealed that one or more of these dark triad people developed the concept.
Nothing is real about the terminologies.

Twin flames are believed to share intense connection and the connection and intimacy between the two people involved could feel like that from a single soul divided into other half i.e two people evolved from just a soul. Some experts in this field do claim that many things would match well between twin flames including physical appearance, they may look alike or be close to looking alike. It is a once in a lifetime thing which may or may not last forever. The purpose is for spiritual or soul growth and positive alterations.

Karmic is a connection with the main purpose of learning something unique in a lifetime, it's happens as a result of instant connection between the two people. It's often believed not to be a long lasting relationship i.e it's a relationship that's not meant to last long, just for you to learn from, some believe that you could have more than one karmic partner in a lifetime.

QuoteAre they the same or different?

As explained above, they're different

QuoteDo you believe in these terms?

Absolutely No

QuoteAre they real?

As for me, no, they're not real. Just a kind of irrational belief

Although they're different.
The two are total BS, that's all I can say. No need to stress over the terms.

I came across these terminologies somewhere.
Who can explain what the two terms mean?
Are they the same or different?
Do you believe in these terms?
Are they real?