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Posted by Maqrithe
 - Oct 08, 2024, 09:09 PM
As someone who had experienced a narcissist abuse for a little time, I mean a real diagnosed narcissist not just how people go about labelling others. I would say these ASPD folks know where they are ending up. Just like what scares you and I is missing heaven if there's one, what scares these people is missing hell if there's one.
Believe it or not, that's the truth, I don't think I have ever met a psychopath before but my experience with a confirmed narcissist gives me that guarantee. If you know one of them, look into their eyes and ask - "Do you really want to go to heaven when you die", listen to the answer.
Posted by Xwarrior
 - Oct 08, 2024, 08:36 AM
Religion that are desperate to have more people by force are those with these concepts, they believe that's how they could get more people, so they preach that once you ask for forgiveness and join them, you are free, in that way, no hell for you.
More reason you need to question if there's truly a hell to begin with or if it's just a logic to get more people join those religion.
Judaism for instance do believe hell is just a little time punishment not eternal, that's the most easy to believe among the Abrahamic's, yet how many Jews are on earth today?
They don't coerce others, they don't need to because they believe more in doing good than in shouting about religion.
The concept of hell is questionable. That's why I like philosophy.
Posted by Obilines
 - Oct 08, 2024, 08:16 AM
You see these people that created the concept of religion did not know there were or would later be human beings like psychopaths, sociopaths, narcissists, machiavellians and maybe others. If they knew, they would have tried to perfect their lies.
Posted by Ellioter
 - Oct 08, 2024, 08:09 AM
Quote from: Zeleta on Oct 08, 2024, 08:08 AMWhy should hell exists if God is truly merciful?
Better still, Why should God create psychopaths if there's truly a hell?
Posted by Zeleta
 - Oct 08, 2024, 08:08 AM
Why should hell exists if God is truly merciful?
Posted by Gurusight
 - Oct 08, 2024, 08:06 AM
Quote from: Afraniton on Oct 08, 2024, 08:04 AMWe should all be aware of this in that case, it shouldn't be something at the unconscious level, the actions look evil than karmic.
Well, it's a suggestion based on the topic.
Posted by Afraniton
 - Oct 08, 2024, 08:04 AM
Quote from: Gurusight on Oct 08, 2024, 08:02 AMThey could not necessarily be evil but Karma for those who need it. In this case, they may not go to hell.
We should all be aware of this in that case, it shouldn't be something at the unconscious level, the actions look evil than karmic.
Posted by Gurusight
 - Oct 08, 2024, 08:02 AM
They could not necessarily be evil but Karma for those who need it. In this case, they may not go to hell.
Posted by Kingyul
 - Oct 08, 2024, 07:58 AM
Quote from: Afraniton on Oct 08, 2024, 07:57 AM1) They might be unconscious at this stage.
2) They might have made a convenant not to ever reveal.
3) The devil is so smart he would never tell you who he is so as to accomplish his aim and gain more souls, same goes for psychopaths.
Hmmm
Posted by Afraniton
 - Oct 08, 2024, 07:57 AM
Quote from: Kingyul on Oct 08, 2024, 07:52 AMThis is a bit interesting to me, let's just say they could be Satan's accomplices as Fadanana said.
But don't you think one or some of them would have by chance revealed this to a therapist or a spiritual person?
1) They might be unconscious at this stage.
2) They might have made a convenant not to ever reveal.
3) The devil is so smart he would never tell you who he is so as to accomplish his aim and gain more souls, same goes for psychopaths.
Posted by Kingyul
 - Oct 08, 2024, 07:52 AM
Quote from: Afraniton on Oct 08, 2024, 07:45 AMMaybe the devil is also capable of creating humans, which gives means he created the ASPD people, so maybe they aren't the ones that will end up in hell but their creator or maybe as special creatures that they are they already know where they're going which is hell and they don't care.
This is a bit interesting to me, let's just say they could be Satan's accomplices as Fadanana said.
But don't you think one or some of them would have by chance revealed this to a therapist or a spiritual person?
Posted by Afraniton
 - Oct 08, 2024, 07:49 AM
Quote from: Fadanana on Oct 08, 2024, 07:48 AMAnother way to look at it is that maybe they are the servants of devil but are pushed here on earth in human form🤔
Maybe
Posted by Fadanana
 - Oct 08, 2024, 07:48 AM
Quote from: Afraniton on Oct 08, 2024, 07:45 AMMaybe the devil is also capable of creating humans, which gives means he created the ASPD people, so maybe they aren't the ones that will end up in hell but their creator or maybe as special creatures that they are they already know where they're going which is hell and they don't care.
Another way to look at it is that maybe they are the servants of devil but are pushed here on earth in human form🤔
Posted by Afraniton
 - Oct 08, 2024, 07:45 AM
Quote from: Destinine on Oct 08, 2024, 07:37 AMGod is forgiving and merciful, so there might be no hell.
Maybe the devil is also capable of creating humans, which means he created the ASPD people, so maybe they aren't the ones that will end up in hell but their creator or maybe as special creatures that they are they already know where they're going which is hell and they don't care.
Posted by Destinine
 - Oct 08, 2024, 07:37 AM
God is forgiving and merciful, so there might be no hell.
Posted by Shereefah
 - Oct 08, 2024, 07:21 AM
Quote from: Yace on Oct 08, 2024, 06:09 AMExactly what I researched.
@Shereefah, what's your take on this?
It is a question I ask and ponder on myself, haven't got an answer yet🤷
Posted by Detoba
 - Oct 08, 2024, 07:18 AM
Quote from: Legopo on Oct 08, 2024, 07:10 AMThe way some healthy people with narcissistic traits victimize others to acquire worldly things is not really different from the way people with ASPD operates. Those healthy ones have complete free will to choose and they're most likely the reason why hell exists.
You see the psychopaths and others suffering from ASPD are here to make some soul grow spiritually.
Victimizing others make them grow spiritually?
If I'm forced to believe that, how about people they end up killing?
How about those that run mad because of their torture?
How about those they destroy their lives in the process of acquiring worldly possessions like power, money and fame?
Must you be tortured to grow spiritually?
Remember that only few survive a real psychopathic torture.
Posted by Legopo
 - Oct 08, 2024, 07:10 AM
The way some healthy people with narcissistic traits victimize others to acquire worldly things is not really different from the way people with ASPD operate. Those healthy ones have complete free will to choose and they're most likely the reason why hell exists.
You see the psychopaths and others suffering from ASPD are here to make some soul grow spiritually.
Posted by Wofaiti
 - Oct 08, 2024, 07:02 AM
Perhaps there would be another place for them, not heaven, not hell.
Posted by Detoba
 - Oct 08, 2024, 07:00 AM
Psychopaths are some people's hell on earth.

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