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[Fredlactose]

Makes a lot of sense now.

They except everyone to be able to play the mind game, not knowing not everyone is like them. If you can't, that's when they tag you as the black sheep. You hear them say, ''how can everyone be bad and you think you are not the problem?"
You hear this term a lot from some company owners and some HR teams these days.
Lies! It's the highest gaslighting of the latest century. That's part of their logic, they tag you uncooperative, difficult to get along with, when your own mind is plain like colour white.

You either stay and keep looking or leave for the stability of your mental health.

I'm not saying it's only a thinker's thing, some feelers can play mind games too and any personality can be toxic.

[Yemibrain]

You hear them say, "how can everyone be bad and you think you are not the problem?"
You hear this term a lot from some company owners and some HR teams these days.
Lies! It's the bighest gaslighting of the latest century. That's part of their logic, they tag you uncooperative, difficult to get along with, when your own mind is plain like colour white.

You either stay and keep looking or leave for the stability of your mental health.

I'm not saying it's only a thinker's thing, some feelers can play mind games too and any personality can be toxic.

Truly a common term these days.

[Fredlactose]

Truly a common term these days.

Mostly, that's because they expect you to get into the mud with them so you all enjoy the mind games together, it's as simple as that. Don't think anything is wrong with you if you're on the path.

[Biu]

They except everyone to be able to play the mind game, not knowing not everyone is like them. If you can't, that's when they tag you as the black sheep. You hear them say, ''how can everyone be bad and you think you are not the problem?"
You hear this term a lot from some company owners and some HR teams these days.
Lies! It's the highest gaslighting of the latest century. That's part of their logic, they tag you uncooperative, difficult to get along with, when your own mind is plain like colour white.

You either stay and keep looking or leave for the stability of your mental health.

I'm not saying it's only a thinker's thing, some feelers can play mind games too and any personality can be toxic.

Hmmm, this brings some memories about my former workplace. Brilliant

[Xaletia]

🤣🤣 If not for the 3 bolded parts I wouldn't have agreed with you but for those three parts, you said it exactly as it is.
Nevertheless, I believe ESTPs and INTPs are the most selfish. I'm not exempting ENTPs but to me, those two will come first, then ESTJ would join.
INTPs are not everywhere because they are minority, so not everyone could have an encounter with them, but I've got few as family members and as friends so I know they could be very selfish, nothing concerns them with others' happiness, still not like ESTP.

Have you met an ESTP? The females are so cunning they believe they could get whatever they want and in the process any other person could go to hell. The males? Oh my world! If they can't keep acquiring from you to themselves always just count them out of the deal, they will have in abundance and still want to gain something from the poorest, I'm not just talking about money, I mean in every way. It's about them all alone, if there's any word higher than selfishness, just give it to those people, forget about their sympathy, it's full of deceit. All their lives is to calculate how they can exploit others and always find a problem to other's solution.
"Their actions are always like, why would any other person be happy apart from me? I should be the only happy person in the world."

PS; I'm an ESTJ and we aren't out of the selfish league as well but I know I'm better than ESTPs.

🤣🤣 Tell us the truth, your close ESTP friend betrayed you. I know you guys usually click well as good friends- ESTJ-ESTP.
Don't just summarize the story for us, give us the whole gist.
Another thing, you know you are not any better as an ESTJ in term of selfishness right?

[Gomantics]

🤣🤣 Tell us the truth, your close ESTP friend betrayed you. I know you guys usually click well as good friends- ESTJ-ESTP.
Don't just summarize the story for us, give us the whole gist.
Another thing, you know you are not any better as an ESTJ in term of selfishness right?

Thank God I'm online to debunk this ASAP, no one betrayed me, I can't be easily betrayed like that...lol.

Your second point - Yes I know, but I don't have a problem seeing other people happy and I suddenly do not create problems where there's none. I also do not bother to take more from those poorer than me. That makes us different.

[Mafy]

🤣🤣 Tell us the truth, your close ESTP friend betrayed you. I know you guys usually click well as good friends- ESTJ-ESTP.
Don't just summarize the story for us, give us the whole gist.
Another thing, you know you are not any better as an ESTJ in term of selfishness right?

Even as lovers, they should do well😅

[Xaletia]

Thank God I'm online to debunk this ASAP, no one betrayed me, I can't be easily betrayed like that...lol.

Your second point - Yes I know, but I don't have a problem seeing other people happy and I suddenly do not create problems where there's none. I also do not bother to take more from those poorer than me. That makes us different.

Roll eyes🥺

[Xaletia]

Even as lovers, they should do well😅

Well, they should, I don't know why Gomantics is having issues with his brethren.
However, ESTP will do anything, go to any length to marry a feeler. Except nature does not bring that particular ESTP together with any feeler throughout his or her dating journey. They usually do not want another thinker for many selfish reasons, but very healthy feelers usually end up dumping their selfish ass.

[Gomantics]

Well, they should, I don't know why Gomantics is having issues with his brethren.
However, ESTP will do anything, go to any length to marry a feeler. Except nature do not bring that particular ESTP together with any feeler throughout his or her dating journey. They usually do not want another thinker for many selfish reasons, but very healthy feelers usually end up dumping their selfish ass.

They are not my brethren. 🏃🏃🏃

[Xaletia]

They are not my brethren. 🏃🏃🏃

🤣

[Riwola]

Selfish - **TP followed by **TJ
Selfless - **FJ and ENFP followed by other **FP.

[Emhigh]

INTPs are not everywhere because they are minority, so not everyone could have an encounter with them, but I've got few as family members and as friends so I know they could be very selfish, nothing concerns them with others' happiness, still not like ESTP.

Have you met an ESTP? The females are so cunning they believe they could get whatever they want and in the process any other person could go to hell. The males? Oh my world! If they can't keep acquiring from you to themselves always just count them out of the deal, they will have in abundance and still want to gain something from the poorest, I'm not just talking about money, I mean in every way. It's about them all alone, if there's any word higher than selfishness, just give it to those people, forget about their sympathy, it's full of deceit. All their lives is to calculate how they can exploit others and always find a problem to other's solution.
"Their actions are always like, why would any other person be happy apart from me? I should be the only happy person in the world."

PS; I'm an ESTJ and we aren't out of the selfish league as well but I know I'm better than ESTPs.

@bolded isn't true, I wanna make people close to me happy, even those that are not. I may not have much time to think about those that are not close to me though.

[Wofaiti]

@bolded isn't true, I wanna make people close to me happy, even those that are not. I may not have much time to think about those that are not close to me though.

When all you are engrossed with in your head is your logical concept alone. How do you make those close to you happy?
By giving them money after they excessively serve you?

[Xaletia]

@bolded isn't true, I wanna make people close to me happy, even those that are not. I may not have much time to think about those that are not close to me though.

Most of these things are done subconsciously, that's why it's called personality. Just think of the way your thoughts and behaviour affect others.

[Xaletia]

When all you are engrossed with in your head is your logical concept alone. How do you make those close to you happy?
By giving them money after they excessively serve you?

Like ENTPs, after using you like a bot or AI for work they can't do themselves, an ENTP could decide to take you out for dinner or ask you to go with 'em on vacation when you're supposed to be resting. If you say no, some of them find it offensive and take it personally, don't be deceived, they still want to go and use you on that vacation.

Some of them will give you 11USD as your wages instead of 10USD after overusing you, you may end up using all the money to buy medicine at the end, and they will claim they've made you happy. Gosh! ENTPs are another set of creatures, at least INTPs are hardworking, you see ENTPs, @Vigba knows them very well.

[Wofaiti]

don't be deceived, they still want to go and use you on that vacation.

Some of them will give you 11USD as your wages instead of 10USD after overusing you, you may end up using all the money to buy medicine at the end, and they will claim they've made you happy. Gosh! ENTPs are another set of creatures, at least INTPs are hardworking, you see ENTPs, @Vigba knows them very well.

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[Darego]

Some level of selfishness is healthy for everyone.

[Wofaiti]

Some level of selfishness is healthy for everyone.

This is their line, their favourite quote and music.
Self-compassion is healthy not selfishness.

[Vigba]

Most of these things are done subconsciously, that's why it's called personality. Just think of the way your thoughts and behaviour affect others.

Some matured ones are very very conscious of their actions.