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What MBTI type is the most selfish and what type is most selfless?

Started by Congra, Sep 14, 2024, 10:33 PM

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Congra

We all have or know some selfish and selfless people around us. Let's come to personalities now, so we could have an idea the ones that are selfish and selfless respectively.
I'm not here to bash anyone, just to learn.
Gracias.


Vigba

All MBTI types are selfish to some degree but most Selfish that I know are the...

-ENTPs
-INTPs 
-ESTPs

You see the first two are so horrible while the first one believes they are smarter than the whole world.
The first two are typical users, they can use others to stupor and still turn around and say they're doing them a favour.

The first one could be lazy as fvck, lazy to even pee or poop by him or herself while using and manipulating others. Anything the first one does for you is just a means to an end, no matter who you are to him or her on this planet.

You see ESTPs, they sometimes seem unconscious about their own selfishness. Who cares anyways? They still remain freaking selfish, it's always "me, me and me" for them. ISTx comes close too.

When it comes to selflessness, the only type that comes to mind is the INFJ, haven't met one in person, but reading and researching about them, understanding they put other's need before theirs speak volume.
Maybe ISFP comes close to them, my close friend when I was in school used to be an ISFP.

Other xxFx could seem equally selfless, but I have discovered most of us do the selflessness act to get something in return, which deep down could not really be considered as being absolutely selfless. A truly selfless person wouldn't loud it or even want anything in return.

Please note that I only talk realities and hate faking things, I don't hate the above individuals, I even have an ENTP as a sister and I have close relationships with some others but that's the fact about them.


Mafy

Most selfish - ENTP, ISTP and ENTJ.

ESTJ - A bit better than the first three mentioned.

Most selfless - INFJ, ENFP, ESFJ, ISFP and ENFJ.

Reasonably selfless only to "extremely cherished ones" (please mark the words - "only and extremely")- INTJ, INTP.

Selfless (Normal or let's say somewhere in between) - ESFP, ISFJ

I don't know where to put INFP, all I know is they are also selfless but certainly not the most.


Please don't ask me what my type is🤫

If your type isn't on this list, that means I haven't been with much of you, as all these are from personal experience and study from people.

Goodygoody

Quote from: Vigba on Sep 14, 2024, 11:09 PMAll MBTI types are selfish to some degree but most Selfish that I know are the...
-ENTPs
The first one could be lazy as fvck, lazy to even pee or poop by him or herself while using and manipulating others. Anything the first one does for you is just a means to an end, no matter who you are to him or her on this planet.
😂😂I can attest to the bolded and the users' part. I have an ENTP uncle, if he wants to give you 0.1 dollar, he would ask you to first come and cut all the grasses in his garden or to come and sweep and mop the whole of his company.
I avoid him now like a plague....I can't stop thinking about him and also can't stop laughing as I'm reading your comment 😂

Auwamila

I'll say ENFP and ESFJ are the most selfless.

Most selfish are ENTP, ESTP, ESTJ and ENTJ.

I'm not really close to most introverts, maybe that's why I can't figure that part.

Biu

These ENTP folks seem to be topping this premier league table like Man City.
I don't really know much about MBTI but I think selfishness could be about nurture than nature, like when your parents are selfless and your environment is encouraging, you are most likely going to grow up being selfless as well and vise versa. I may be wrong though. Learning....

Malawy

Quote from: Biu on Sep 15, 2024, 12:14 AMThese ENTP folks seem to be topping this premier league table like Man City.
I don't really know much about MBTI but I think selfishness could be about nurture than nature, like when your parents are selfless and your environment is encouraging, you are most likely going to grow up being selfless as well and vise versa. I may be wrong though. Learning....
Lol @ topping like Man City. That's the truth though.

@Op,
Most Selfish - ENTP, INTJ and INTP

Most Selfless - ISFP, INFJ and ENFP

When I say most Selfless, I mean genuinely selfless.

Vigba

Quote from: Biu on Sep 15, 2024, 12:14 AMThese ENTP folks seem to be topping this premier league table like Man City.
I don't really know much about MBTI but I think selfishness could be about nurture than nature, like when your parents are selfless and your environment is encouraging, you are most likely going to grow up being selfless as well and vise versa. I may be wrong though. Learning....
What got them highest ranking isn't just the fact that they are selfish but the fact that they are users.

ESTPs for example are also very selfish but they can at least sympathize with you, and if you really talk to them about it, they make efforts to try and adjust to some level. Although unconsciously, most of the time it will only take little period before they go back to who they are.

But you see ENTP with their selfishness will use anyone to detriment without a single sympathy, all that matter is achieving their selfish goal. They naturally have this 'I don't care' attitude. Even when they are supposed to use money, they would rather use people and save money.

Check any organisation they're leading, it's always always toxic, only their selfish counterparts e.g the INTP, ESTP and the like can easily survive and thrive under them.

Hamani

Quote from: Vigba on Sep 15, 2024, 01:50 AMBut you see ENTP with their selfishness will use anyone to detriment without a single sympathy, all that matter is achieving their selfish goal. They naturally have this 'I don't care' attitude. Even when they are supposed to use money, they would rather use people and save money.

Check any organisation they're leading, it's always always toxic, only their selfish counterparts e.g the INTP, ESTP and the like can easily survive and thrive under them.

That makes them go-getters or "goal-getters" as it is used in the business world.

Vigba

Quote from: Hamani on Sep 15, 2024, 02:23 AMThat makes them go-getters or "goal-getters" as it is used in the business world.
To the detriments of others?
Have you seen where ENFP or ENFJ leads?
Have you seen where they set goals?
Have you seen how accurate they catch the goals as their team remain happy?
And yes, I'm talking about the business world.
Winning shouldn't be a do or kill thing.

Gomantics

Quote from: Vigba on Sep 15, 2024, 01:50 AMBut you see ENTP with their selfishness will use anyone to detriment without a single sympathy, all that matter is achieving their selfish goal. They naturally have this 'I don't care' attitude. Even when they are supposed to use money, they would rather use people and save money.
Check any organisation they're leading, it's always always toxic
🤣🤣 If not for the 3 bolded parts I wouldn't have agreed with you but for those three parts, you said it exactly as it is.
Nevertheless, I believe ESTPs and INTPs are the most selfish. I'm not exempting ENTPs but to me, those two will come first, then ESTJ would join.
INTPs are not everywhere because they are minority, so not everyone could have an encounter with them, but I've got few as family members and as friends so I know they could be very selfish, nothing concerns them with others' happiness, still not like ESTP.

Have you met an ESTP? The females are so cunning they believe they could get whatever they want and in the process any other person could go to hell. The males? Oh my world! If they can't keep acquiring from you to themselves always just count them out of the deal, they will have in abundance and still want to gain something from the poorest, I'm not just talking about money, I mean in every way. It's about them all alone, if there's any word higher than selfishness, just give it to those people, forget about their sympathy, it's full of deceit. All their lives is to calculate how they can exploit others and always find a problem to other's solution.
"Their actions are always like, why would any other person be happy apart from me? I should be the only happy person in the world."

PS; I'm an ESTJ and we aren't out of the selfish league as well but I know I'm better than ESTPs.

Mafy

Quote from: Gomantics on Sep 28, 2024, 03:50 AM🤣🤣 If not for the 3 bolded parts I wouldn't have agreed with you but for those three parts, you said it exactly as it is.
Nevertheless, I believe ESTPs and INTPs are the most selfish. I'm not exempting ENTPs but to me, those two will come first, then ESTJ would join.
INTPs are not everywhere because they are minority, so not everyone could have an encounter with them, but I've got few as family members and as friends so I know they could be very selfish, nothing concerns them with others' happiness, still not like ESTP.

Have you met an ESTP? The females are so cunning they believe they could get whatever they want and in the process any other person could go to hell. The males? Oh my world! If they can't keep acquiring from you to themselves always just count them out of the deal, they will have in abundance and still want to gain something from the poorest, I'm not just talking about money, I mean in every way. It's about them all alone, if there's any word higher than selfishness, just give it to those people, forget about their sympathy, it's full of deceit. All their lives is to calculate how they can exploit others and always find a problem to other's solution.
"Their actions are always like, why would any other person be happy apart from me? I should be the only happy person in the world."

PS; I'm ESTJ and we aren't out of the selfish league as well but I know I'm better than ESTPs.
This makes me laugh out so loud😂, especially the last part. "Their actions are always like, why would any other person be happy apart from me?. Seems one ESTP broke your heart.

Gomantics

Quote from: Mafy on Sep 28, 2024, 04:13 AMThis makes me laugh out so loud😂, especially the last part. "Their actions are always like, why would any other person be happy apart from me?. Seems one ESTP broke your heart.
Nobody broke my heart but that's what's written all over their actions. You may easily confuse a healthy one for a real narcissist at first if they are new to you because of two much of those negative vibes in them.

Mafy

Quote from: Gomantics on Sep 28, 2024, 04:17 AMNobody broke my heart but that's what's written all over their actions. You may easily confuse a healthy one for a real narcissist at first if they are new to you because of two much of those negative vibes in them.
Just kidding at the heart break thing. I know you aren't far from the truth.

Yemibrain

Quote from: Vigba on Sep 15, 2024, 01:50 AMCheck any organisation they're leading, it's always always toxic, only their selfish counterparts e.g the INTP, ESTP and the like can easily survive and thrive under them.
Why is this part so? I've realized so many thinkers get along in the office setting especially the toxic offices. Why?

Vigba

Quote from: Yemibrain on Sep 28, 2024, 04:42 AMWhy is this part so? I've realized so many thinkers get along in the office setting especially the toxic offices. Why?
Mind games and head games. They play mind games together and to them, it's fun, that's one of the things they live for.

Yemibrain

Quote from: Vigba on Sep 28, 2024, 04:45 AMMind games and head games. They play mind games together and to them, it's fun, that's one of the things they live for.
Wow

Carim

Quote from: Vigba on Sep 28, 2024, 04:45 AMMind games and head games. They play mind games together and to them, it's fun, that's one of the things they live for.
Plus many of them like it being toxic so office politics could thrive and finally come to their favour, if they have someone of the dark triad amongst them who's really fuelling the whole scenario, then boom, the fire in that office would never come down.
They only succeed where they are majority and not all thinkers are experts in mind games but most have the natural skill, even with the natural skill, if there's no need to use it, the healthy ones won't remember it.
Reason I said it happens where they are majority, as a feeler, you find it difficult to stay among them in those political offices.

Yemibrain

Quote from: Carim on Sep 28, 2024, 04:56 AMPlus many of them like it being toxic so office politics could thrive and finally come to their favour, if they have someone of the dark triad amongst them who's really fuelling the who scenario, then boom, the fire in that office would never come down.
They only succeed where they are majority and not all thinkers are experts in mind games but most have the natural skill, even with the natural skill, if there's no need to use it, the healthy ones won't remember it.
Reason I said it happens where they are majority, as a feeler, you find it difficult to stay among them in those political offices.
Makes a lot of sense now.


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